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A review of Scooby Doo on Zombie Island was too wild to do on our own - that’s why we invited Eric Silver along on this wild tale of a talking dog, voracious hungers, and a completely confusing climax.This week, Julia recommends, all of which is available on Hulu.Content Warning: This episode contains conversations about racism, the Civil War, death, cultural appropriation, slavery, and colonization.Guest- Eric Silver is the Dungeon Master of and co-host of. Follow him on Twitter.Sponsors- is an online learning community where you can learn—and teach—just about anything. Visit to get two months of Skillshare Premium for free! This week Julia recommends “Healthy Social Media Strategies for Artists” by Arleesha Yetzer.- is the #1 app to help you reduce your anxiety and stress and help you sleep better. Get 25% off a Calm Premium subscription at.- is on a mission to find a perfect bra for everyone. Get 15% off your first order at.Find Us OnlineIf you like Spirits, help us grow by spreading the word!

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We are founding members of, a production collective of indie audio professionals. Our music is 'Danger Storm' by Kevin MacLeod , licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0. TranscriptAmanda: Welcome to Spirits Podcast, a boozy dive into mythology, legends, and folklore.

Every week we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world. I'm Amanda.Julia: And I'm Julia.Amanda: And this is episode 147, Myth Movie Night: Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.Julia: Yeah, the minute you said you had never seen this film before, I was like, 'Well, we're changing it now,' and here we go.Amanda: It was extremely entertaining. I now would love to watch every Scooby-Doo straight-to-VHS movie ever made and I hope everybody enjoys.Julia: Yep, no, it's a lot of fun. I think in the future we're definitely going to have to do Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost. I feel like that's a good sequel to this one.Amanda: Do you know who would be able to choose if they were a witch or a ghost because they just have that much power?Julia: Is that our new patrons?Amanda: Our new patrons, Maya and Alex.

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Welcome, y'all. You join the ranks of Supporting Producer level patrons, Philip, Eeyore, Megan, Skyla, Samantha, Sammy, Josie, Neil, Jessica, and Phil Fresh, and our Legend Level patrons, Audra, Chris, Mark, Cody, Mr. Folk, Sarah, Sandra, and Jack Marie, who just got a wonderful box of vermouth from Shaker and Spoon, vermouth cocktails, which I thought I knew the peak of how vermouth went, but I did not.Julia: No, that's fancy. I love a good vermouth cocktail. I feel like there's so much more we could be doing with vermouth besides the classic martini.Amanda: Speaking of great cocktails, Julia, you served up an absolute classic this week. Tell us about it.Julia: Yeah, so I served a Sazerac, which I feel like if you don't know the history of a Sazerac, you probably are like, 'Oh, kind of a boring drink.

Seen it before in tons of bars,' and stuff like that. But it was actually invented in New Orleans in the late 1830s and the Sazerac was originally named for the brand of cognac that was used in it, but by the 1870s they swapped out the cognac for rye whiskey and then added absinthe to it as well. Usually just a dash or a wash of absinthe, not a full shot of absinthe.Amanda: I feel like late 1800s it's like, 'Everyone has lead poisoning. Let's just drink absinthe while we can.' Julia: Yeah, figure why not. And probably the most important aspect to the traditional Sazerac is the use of Peychaud's Bitters, which are local to New Orleans, and it really adds this sort of minty, licoricey flavor that you don't typically see in, say, the kind of bitters that you would buy at the store.Amanda: Very cool.

It was absolutely delicious and you served it in a very pretty crystal flute looking glass and it was a wonderful shade. It made me feel like a flapper.Julia: Yeah, it is much classier than the movie that we watched.Amanda: Listen, it's all relative man.Julia: The mid-90s, man, was a weird, weird time.Amanda: Sure was. Well Jules, once we finish watching through all of our Scooby-Doo made-for-TV movies, what should we be watching/reading/listening to this week?Julia: Okay, so it's the 10-year anniversary of when Community first premiered.Amanda: Whoa.Julia.

Which if you have not seen Dan Harmon's Community, please, please watch it. I think it's maybe one of the most influential to me TV shows that I've watched as a adult, and it says a lot about how you don't have to be perfect and you don't have to root for the people who are shown as a protagonist, but everyone in the world is flawed and can do a little bit better.Amanda: I love that so much. As of recording, yesterday was the 20th anniversary of The West Wing premiering and I cannot believe that Community started only 10 years after West Wing started.

So much happened in that decade. Jesus.Julia: So much. Oh, geez.Amanda: Oh boy.Julia: But yeah, it's a great show. All of it's on Hulu, so you can catch all six seasons.Amanda: Beautiful. I love that so much. And Community was a big influence on me as well, and I feel like.

I don't know, shaped the kind of art I want to make in a lot of ways, and I hope that we can show those who join us at our Boston show exactly what kind of art we believe in and want to make because I don't know. I'm here to push boundaries in all ways, in respectful and wonderful, artistic boundary pushing ways, not like personal boundary pushing, and I am just so excited about what we have in store for the Boston show. So please, if you are in New England, if you're in New York and want to take a drive, or if you are in Boston or have friends that go to school there, it's a wonderful time of year on October 10th to head on over for our Boston live show.

Tickets are available now and you should definitely get them before the day at multitude.productions/live.Julia: Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. I'm finishing researching the Spirits segment and ooh boy, it's going to be a blast.Amanda: Oh, y'all don't even know.Julia: It's going to be amazing. I can't wait.Amanda: Well, without further ado, enjoy Spirits Podcast episode 147, Myth Movie Night: Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.Julia: Last week on Spirits during our Urban Legends episode, Amanda made a statement that I shouldn't have been surprised by and yet I was, and we had to rectify it immediately, and it was that she had never seen Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.Amanda: Not once.Julia: Yeah, no, not ever. So that's what we did this week. We watched Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.Amanda: We sure did, and I watched it at home with my partner in life, love, and podcasting, Eric Silver, and you had so many wonderful opinions and interjections that I thought, 'Let's just cut the middleman here. Let's just have you on as a Scooby-Doo expert and enthusiast.'

Eric: I am a Scooby-Doo expert and enthusiast. I love mysteries, I love taking down petty criminals, I love unmasking things and people and ideas, so I'm here for it.Julia: Fantastic. And you've seen this film before?Eric: I definitely have. I remembered all of this. I think I've seen it in bits and pieces, but it's very much in the Scooby-Doo canon, post-cartoon when it was just individual movies. So I'm 100% here for it.

I didn't remember some of this stuff, which is ridiculous. You can divide this movie into three distinct parts. The first is exposition, the middle is, 'It's a mystery!' Amanda: High jinks.Eric: High jinks.

Oh, it's a regular Scooby-Doo but it's not. And then the end makes no sense.Julia: Yep.Eric: I'm so excited.Julia: All right, fantastic. So this is the 1998 direct-to-TV film, Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.

To quote the Wikipedia page it, 'contains a darker tone than most Scooby-Doo productions and is notable for containing real supernatural creatures rather than people in costumes.' Eric: You know who also said that? The one star Amazon reviews.Julia: Fuck you, one star Amazon reviews.Eric: I was looking it up.

I'm like, 'Why wouldn't anyone like this?' And it's all parents who'd be like, 'My three year old hated the real spooks and also too many confusing accents.' Julia: It's true. There's a very many confusing accents in this film.So Scooby-Doo had been a little bit on the wayside when it came to productions of it.

It had been a minute since they had had a very successful Scooby-Doo TV show or really interest in Scooby-Doo, and then 1991 came around and Cartoon Network started running old episodes of Scooby-Doo.Amanda: Did it really come out before the 90s?Julia: This came out. Oh yeah, dude. It's from the 70s.Eric: It was like the heyday of Hanna-Barbera.Amanda: I had no idea because it was on TV so frequently when we were kids in the mid to late 90s that I just sort of assumed it was contemporaneous.Julia: Those were all reruns and I have a funny story about that later.

So Cartoon Network starts showing all of these, Scooby-Doo becomes more interesting. They do another direct-to-video film of Scooby-Doo. It's pretty successful, but they decide, 'Hey, we're going to really push the envelope and we're going to make Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island.' Amanda: Yeah.Julia: So they went back to try and get as much of the original cast as they could. The first snag that they came into was, one, a lot of the people had died since the original production, and then there was Casey Kasem. Casey Kasem was the voice of Shaggy.Eric: What?

No.Julia: Casey Kasem was the voice of Shaggy.Amanda: Who is this person?Eric: Oh. Casey Kasem used to do. He was the countdown radio guy. He would pick up what the top hits are he'd be like, 'I'm Casey Kasem.' Amanda: I see.Eric: That was his legitimate voice.Julia: And so it sounds like Shaggy. So they tried to get Casey Kasem back, but he had recently gone vegan and so he demanded that the character would follow suit and cut all meat and dairy from his diet.Amanda: Oh.Eric: Fucking forgot about that.Julia: If you see the film, Shaggy eats a lot of meat and also other things.Amanda: Yeah, like a three-foot tall meat sandwich.Julia: Yep, and then a lot of crawfish and stuff like that.Amanda: Oh yeah.Julia: And they had already animated the film.Amanda: Oh no.Julia. So they couldn't really cut a lot of that.Amanda: Oh boy.Eric: Crawdads are a plot point in this movie.Julia: Yes, they are.Eric: You can't cut it out.Amanda: You can't.

That would be a substantial rewrite.Julia: So they tried, Casey would not budge on this whole thing, so they hired voice actor Billy West.Eric: Yes. I noticed that.Julia: Yes. Billy West, very, very good actor.

Amanda, you might know him from. He plays a bunch of characters on Futurama, he was Stimpy in Ren and Stimpy.Amanda: Oh.Julia: He played both Ren and Stimpy, my apologies.Amanda: What?Julia: But Ren only from season three to season five.Amanda: Goodness gracious.

Were they like, 'Hey, this guy left. I don't know, let's just pay the same guy the same amount to do double the work'?

Sounds like my first couple of jobs.Julia: You might also know him as the red M&M.Amanda: Oh.Eric: Really?Julia: Yep, that's Billy West.Eric: Oh man. The casting in this.Amanda: Listen, I just figured out that queer icon. Not because he's queer but because he's a queer icon.

Mark Hamill is in this movie, which was the only casting thing that I cared about so far.Julia: There are a lot of very good voice actors in this film.Amanda: Tell me more.Julia: The rest of the team are just kind of other people. They got Scott Innes to play Scooby-Doo. Don Messick passed away back in 1997, the year before this came out, so he wasn't able to do it originally. They had just a bunch of random people play Daphne and Velma, and then Frank Welker is the only one that they were able to get to return from the original cast and he played Fred.Amanda: Oh.Julia: And so he was really worried because he did the test for Fred in the studio and the producers kept telling him, 'Hey, dude, your voice is too low. You're doing your voice too low.' And he's like, 'No, I'm doing it the normal way I always did.' Amanda: 'I am him.'

Eric: 'I'm the Fred.' Julia: Like, 'This is just my speaking voice,' and they're like, 'No, your voice typically sounds higher in the episodes.' And so they went back and watched a bunch of the original episode and realized that he was doing the voice correctly, it's just that when Cartoon Network started airing the episodes, they sped them up so they could fit in more commercials.Amanda: What?Julia. So his voice sounded higher.Amanda: What?Julia: Yes.Amanda: I was going to say, well clearly microphones have changed. Maybe they're more sensitive to the lower. No.Julia: Nope, it's just, 'We needed to get them down to 18 minutes instead of 21,' or whatever.Amanda: Wow.

What a classic boardroom man move. Like, 'Hey, you know what? We can raise profits by 20% by running them at 1.2 speed.' Eric: That's why I listen to all my podcasts at 1.5 speed.Julia: There it is.Amanda: It gives the podcasts-Eric: I have to jam it into my head faster for more commercials.Julia: There it is.Amanda: Yeah.

It gives the podcasters twice as much revenue, right?Eric: And before anyone says anything, I don't actually do that.Julia: Thank you.Eric: This is a comedy podcast.Julia: Yes. That is true.So with that background in mind, I think we can get into the episode.Eric: I would like to say, Velma sounded like a grandma, which was confusing.Julia: Yes.

I mean, they kind of make her like that typically in the episodes.Eric: No, but she's a nerd but she sounded like a grandma.Julia: She did.Eric: You said that. You said in the middle while we were watching. You were like, 'Why does Velma sound so weird?' And I'm like, 'I know!' Julia: Because the voice actress who played Velma had only played her once and it was in a Johnny Bravo. Either Johnny Bravo or Jonny Quest, I have to double check.Eric: Johnny Bravo.Julia: Was it Johnny Bravo?Eric: Because in Johnny Bravo, there were a bunch of.

It was the fun thing. It's funny that. I mean, spoiler alert. Velma ends up with a lawman at the end of the movie.Julia: Yes. Weird.Eric: But on Cartoon Network, they were doing a bunch of-Julia: Crossovers.Eric: Yeah, inter-cartoon crossovers and this-Amanda: I remember that, yeah.Eric: And the one that they did there was like a-canonically Velma and Johnny Bravo were dating, which was bananas.Julia: So that's the only other part where this woman played Velma was in that crossover episode before she did this role.Amanda: Well, that's a pull for Johnny, I think.Julia: Yeah.

Yeah, he's a lucky bastard because Velma's great.Eric: Well, he had a lot of feminists in his life telling him to get his shit together, so.Julia: Yeah, thankfully.So let's open up. We open on a creepy castle in the rain. And the orchestral setup is actually really nice. It kind of slaps.Eric: It definitely does.Julia: It's very different from the rest of the music in the show.Amanda: Yeah. They also have a Smashing Pumpkins cover of the Scooby-Doo theme, so-Julia: It's not Smashing Pumpkins, it's Third Eye Blind.Amanda: Sure is. I was thinking even older than the very 90s band that it was.Julia: It's still very, very good music.Amanda: Well, that slaps. And I couldn't find the soundtrack anywhere online, but if an enterprising conspirator would like to find it, I will gladly add it to my daily rotation.Julia: Yes.

I definitely think we can find it somewhere. I'm sure.Eric: That definitely fits with my first favorite, What's New, Scooby-Doo?, which is covered by Simple Plan.Julia: Yep. That sounds right.Amanda: Incredible. I love it.Julia: It was right.Amanda: It's also a tight 75, which I did just have to mention. Top.Julia: Yes. It was 77 minutes exactly. I was like, 'Ooh, yes.'

Amanda loves a tight 90 or less.Amanda: Yeah. I also really appreciated how we, as you were saying Julia, have a very creepy scene, a traditional castle, Scooby-Doo capers, and it ends up being a framing device. This is an end of an episode pretty much, which ends up being a memory Daphne's recalling on a talk show, which we love a framing device and I thought that was really wonderful.Julia: Yes, and I think it's important to note only because it's my favorite part of every Scooby-Doo one, where it's they unmask the person and then they tell you, 'It's the blah blah blah and he was doing blah blah blah.' So in this opening scene, it was the real estate agent who was printing fake money in the basement.Eric: So good.Julia: So good.Amanda: Isn't that what real estate just is, though?Julia: Yeah.Amanda: Am I right?Julia: Yeah.Eric: Mr. Beeman, where. His name was Mr. Beeman, too.Julia: Was it?

Oh Jesus.Eric: Which is great. It was like, I don't understand what the. There's just so many things going on.Julia: There's a lot.Eric: He's scaring people away. He can't put his money press anywhere else other than this haunted Scottish castle?Julia: Yeah. I mean, no one will look there I guess, you know?

And if he just keeps it on the market.Amanda: And printing money in a cold and wet space is really advantageous.Julia: Yeah.Eric: In my head, it was in Europe or it was in Scotland or in the UK, so I'm like, 'Oh, keep making pounds. I'm sure they'll be fine in the future.'

Julia: Are you sure that there's not giant haunted houses and haunted castles like that in the United States?Eric: Not like that.Julia: Yeah, not like that.So as Amanda said, this is a framing device. Daphne has been running a TV show with just Fred. They were just like, 'He's the producer and also the only cameraman and only crewman.' I'm like, 'How? Amanda: This sounds terrible. They're not even dating. Why is this happening?Julia: They're not even dating.Eric: I was like, 'Who's editing this?'

Julia: Apparently Fred.Amanda: In camera.Eric: Listen, he has iMovie in his camera.Julia: Yes. So the gang has been separated for a year now. Shaggy and Scooby are working as customs agents.Eric: Terrible.Julia. At an airport.Amanda: Very good. Very good job for them.Julia: Meanwhile-Amanda: Until they eat all the contraband.Julia: Yeah, that's the problem.Amanda: You know, they're fired.Julia: And then Velma is running her own mystery bookstore.Amanda: Very good again.Julia: It's very good. And then Fred kind of just calls the gang all back together because they're going to do a ghost tour because Daphne is like, 'We spent a lot of time unmasking fake ghosts. I want to find a real one.'

Eric: So, I don't understand what was Daphne exactly getting at. It was like, does she want to be famous, does she want to find ghosts, or does she want to have a famous TV show? Because I didn't really understand because the whole time.

And then there becomes the montage where they keep unmasking ghosts.Julia: Wonderful montage.Eric: Yeah, but it's like New Orleans flavored and she's disappointed by it every single time. But if she was an influencer and she was leaning into her own celebrity, people still love her for doing the thing, I don't understand why it was a problem that they weren't real.Julia: I think she's been doing the thing for a while and then she had this idea and she wanted to be like, 'I'm going to prove that ghosts are real.' And Fred's like, 'Sounds good,' and they just went to do that, I guess. I think you're thinking too much into the motivation of a Scooby-Doo character.Eric: I 100% was.Amanda: I thought her motivation was pretty clear. She was getting a little bit burned out about doing this false unmaskings. And they did it with the gang, that was really fun.

Maybe on her own it's not as fun, so she is sort of looking for something new, maybe some authenticity, some reminder of why she got into the game. I think it's just feeling a little bit stale for her, a little bit old.Eric: That's fair. I guess in my head, I wanted Daphne to say the line, 'I spent so much time unmasking criminals, I just want to take the criminals down,' and then she becomes a lawyer.Julia: That's, I mean, great. This is the first instance that we see of Daphne being not the damsel in distress for once, so I'm a big fan of that.Eric: She did a ton of running in the swamp in heels, though.Julia: She did an arm drag on one of the zombies later on in the film.Eric: It was pretty good.Julia: It was very good.Amanda: It's wonderful, and there truly is so much to get to.Julia: So the gang piles into the Mystery Machine, which is just the Mystery Machine.Eric: Just the Mystery Machine.Julia. But Fred had put a sticker over it and then he tears it off when the gang's all back together.Amanda: Wonderful.Eric: Why is the coloring the same? Oh, it's because it's the same thing.Julia: Yeah.

And so they all head down to New Orleans because there's lots of hauntings in New Orleans, and there's a beautiful montage where they visit spooky places but they're all fakes, as the music tells us. Before the first guy is ever unmasked, the music's like, 'They're all fake. They're just guys in masks.'

Eric: This one was by Seminole band Skycycle.Julia: Beautiful. Thank you for remembering that. The crawfish monster is my personal favorite.Amanda: Yeah, that one's extremely good.

I would watch that montage again. I would just put it on YouTube while I'm getting ready in the morning.Julia: And the music, it's just.

It's a banger.Amanda: I know. It's extremely good. It made me feel like making a playlist that starts with Monster Mash. Not necessarily for Halloween, just for fun.Julia: Fair enough.

I appreciate that.Eric: I respect that.Julia: So they finally get to New Orleans. We see the gang kind of hanging out in the French Quarter and they meet Lena, who is played by Tara Strong.Eric: Oh.Amanda: Really?Julia: Yeah.Eric: So this explains something larger here, which is just Scooby-Doo got the cash and they're like, 'Hey, any voice actor's that around, if you just want to hop on here.' I like that Lena. You could tell that she's mysterious because she has hoop earrings.Julia: Of course.

Obviously.Amanda: Yeah. Some problematic gesturing happening here with her characterization, that's for sure.Eric: I do appreciate the constellation of accents that we have going on here, because Lena is just like hard Southern accent, just straightforward, even if you're in New Orleans you're just a Southern lady who's hanging out here.Amanda: At like a cotillion.Julia: Yes. When we meet Simone later she just is a straight French accent.Eric: Exactly.Julia: There's no mix.Amanda: And then there's her friend Mark Hamill.Julia: Yes. We'll talk about all of the accents going into it once we meet the characters. But yeah, so they meet Lena.

She is a chef on Moonscar Island, which he says is super haunted and-Amanda: Moonscar.Julia: And basically invites the gang over there, and then Velma looks it up on their database.Eric: Loved it.Julia. Which is what? The internet? I'm not sure.Amanda: I love it so much.Julia: And she's like, 'Oh, there have been strange disappearances there.

Eric: They have Monster JSTOR in the back of the van.Julia: They do.Amanda: I was asking myself, what access does she have that national criminal databases warrant. I don't think the National Criminal Database CODIS was a thing right now. And also, I don't know why she would know that and then cops wouldn't be looking into these mysterious disappearances. But then they were.Julia: Yeah, they were. There you go.Amanda: Ha ha.

Foreshadowing.Julia: So they follow Lena onto the ferry.Eric: Oh wait, I forgot about this.Julia: Oh, sorry. Go ahead.Eric: Before we get to this, I also love that Lena's just a chef because the only way to get Shaggy and Scooby to do anything.Julia: Food.Eric. Is to be like, 'Hey, there's food here.' Julia: 'Come with us, there's food.'

Eric: They play them both as so stupid. I cannot get over it.Julia: They are, though.Eric: They are, but not even enough. They're dumb as rocks, which comes up various times. But I'm just like, 'Hey, Shaggy and Scooby, I know that you like eating in this place, but in this other place, there is also food.' Julia: There are hot peppers there.Eric: Oh my God the hot peppers.Julia: So they decide to follow Lena to Moonscar Island. They have to take a ferry, in which we're introduced to Jacques.Eric: Jacques, my favorite character.Julia: Do you know who Jacques is played by?Eric: Yeah.

Jim Cummings.Julia: Jim Cummings, who also played a Cajun character in Princess and the Frog.Amanda: I saw that and I was like, 'Good on ya.' I hope the accent improved.Julia: Yes. It's-Eric: He learned hard into that Cajun accent.Julia: It's about the same.Eric: It's so good.Julia: But Jim Cummings is a man of many, many, many voices.Amanda: Oh yeah.Julia.

So this is just one thing in his repertoire.Amanda: It's definitely in that list of special skills in his resume.Julia: That's all he does is just different voices.Eric: I guess I was so thrown off by how Cajun he was going to be because Lena wasn't. So I'm like, okay, we got Southern people and then Jim's like, 'Oh, ho, ho, let's get on my ferry.' And I'm like, 'What is happening?' I'm like, 'This guy is a bad guy because I do not understand anything he's saying.' 'let's get on the ferry.' Julia: All right. So they get on the ferry.

Lena reacts poorly when she sees Scooby because her 'employer keeps cats,' is the phrase she uses. I'm like, 'Hate that phrase.' Amanda: Hate that phrase a lot.Julia: Don't like it a lot.Eric: This is the first instance where they say, 'A dog,' and Scooby says, 'Dog, where?' Amanda: Which, don't worry, will happen three more times throughout the film.Julia: Rule of three, Amanda.Eric: Happen four times.Julia: No, it happens four times.Amanda: Oh no.Julia: They kept-Eric: It's 75 minutes and that joke happens four times.Julia: So they also meet the weird catfish that Mark Hamill's obsessed with.Amanda: Which I also pointed out, I think it's the first catfish I've ever seen animated and I just appreciate that.Julia: Yeah, all right.

Fair.Eric: Sorry. Her name's Big Mona. Please.Julia: Yeah, sorry. Big Mona.Eric: Please, let's name the epic catfish.